‘I don’t think globalization is coming to an end. I think the global system is in crisis. I think every major institution in our society is in crisis …
“I think the (World Health Organization) is a discredited organization. I think the White House is a discredited institution.
“I’m sorry to say this because I know it’s your former employer: I think the New York Times does not have the credibility it once had. It reads like the Guardian or the Nation. It doesn’t read like a newspaper.
“There is a crisis of credibility and trust.
“I don’t think that means institutions are going to go away. What it means is those institutions are going to need new leaders who have a different world view.”
“Apocaplyse Never” author
Interviewed on C-Span.